Do you still get the physical and cardio benefits?

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E bikes…do you still get the physical and cardio benefits? If you do, then what is the purpose? Longer rides? Easier climbs? I’m in the market for a MTB and have had several suggest this. Thoughts?

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  1. No, Unless you turn off the motor.

  2. The physical and cardio Benefits really depend on how much work you want to let the assist do. I have one for commuting and it's great to show up to work without breaking a sweat. And then get in a decent workout on my ride home.

  3. Be aware that you can't ride some trail systems and a major portion of mountain bikers hate Ebikes. I wouldn't even consider it unless you have health isdues.

  4. More. Just, more. More rides, bigger mountains, easier climbs, fewer dismounts, you can loop back and do it again, and again, and again. Just, more.

  5. ~ They mostly exist to expose the damaged psyches of those who have inexplicably associated their own superiority to others on the fact that they ride manual.

    As opposed to ranking themselves in anywhere among the many competitors in various events who all ride manually.

  6. No, unless you are pushing it ..

  7. Most of what people call e-bikes are pedal assist—meaning you're not riding it like a moped using the motor all the time. But it seems a lot of people think they're entirely motor driven.

    Getting physical and cardio benefits would depend on how much the rider uses the motor.

    Note: I do not own an ebike but I've ridden a few and serviced a few. I also know a few people who own them.

    The important thing to keep in mind is that ebikes are NOT allowed on many off road trails. Riding an ebike on unauthorized trails is not only illegal but makes the rider an asshole.

  8. I'd avoid the added cost and complexity and get a higher quality conventional bike, especially if fitness is your goal.

  9. My brother is an avid rider and he uses ebikes on long rides because he has had 2 heart attacks and has had stents placed in his veins and his doctor told him to do so. I would not categorize him as "lazy with money to burn."

  10. Why not demo one? In the meantime, see if your local trails allow 'em.

  11. I just want to remind everyone that, like ebikes or not, you still must follow the rules you agreed to when joining this group.

  12. I will join this "discussion" tomorrow as I want to sleep tonight.

  13. I did a bile demo on an e bike and you definitely get a workout but climbs are easier and you get there a lot faster.

  14. They are much heavier when they run out of "juice". Plan your ride accordingly.

  15. Health/age issues, commuting they're great. As for a workout, that's up to you.

  16. Use them if you think they will help you do something you wouldn't otherwise be able to.

  17. yup, especially when the battery dies haha… might want to make sure you know if the trails are "E-Bike friendly" (if you're thinking of riding trails)… some people will lose their mind if they see an e-bike on some trails

  18. I rode my first eBike two days ago on a tour in Cabo San Lucas. It was interesting, but I much prefer MTB as it was easier to control. I forsee accidents happening on the local trails IF they ever decide to allow them.

  19. Most of our local trails strictly forbid E-bike use, as well as most of the events around here be them road or mtb.

  20. If your speaking of Rail Trails or those like the C&O I have no problem with people who because of age, disability, or injury recovery using an ebike. For that matter I have no problem with anyone using an ebike As long as they follow trails rules an biking etiquette. The way I figure it we need all the advocates we can get, particularly in these times. As for public trails where currently they may not be allowed,,,,,I suspect a few ADA lawsuits will quickly change that…..Live and let live I say.

  21. Adding to the original question – my personal interest in an ebike would be to assist uphills on a hilly 20 mile commute. Do any of them offer regenerative braking like hybrid cars do?
    I have no interest in averaging 25mph. Would be nice to average 15mph with less variation between uphills and downhills.

  22. I like the option and availability of e bikes. I gave some thought to buying one. But in rationalizing the idea I decided that I LIKE the thrill and power of getting there under my own steam. So until I have some difficulty or other in doing that, that's the way I'll roll.
    That said, who am I to pass judgement on someone, anyone, who gets great thrills from an assisted power bicycle.
    As long as the E-bikes are respectful of others, give them the respect they are due! What's wrong with people?! Share the road! Share the trail…the planet!

  23. I just bought an ebike and I really like it. I also have a light Trek road bike. Mine is petal assist or throttle or completely my own effort. I'm looking forward to riding it more

  24. Electric assist are for cargo bikes or people with physical limitations. I've heard arguments for riding them for commutes longer than 15 miles as well.

    If you buy an electric mountain bike and actually use it on trails you're breaking the law in most states and being a bit of a dick. If you can't get up the trail on your own effort you've got no business going down it, to be honest.

  25. Not many of us understand how swiftly our bodies adapt to a challenge. Ebikes are their own challenge because they're so heavy so look out if you run out of battery, but for a healthy person, why could you possibly need one. Lose the weight and big tyres and ride a nicely tuned, light bike. End up with excellent cardiovascular fitness and the multiple benefits that come with turning your own cranks.. You find it hard on day one, if you rest well, eat well and keep cycling each day and push yourself, by day four you will be stronger in a way you notice significantly. Inside two weeks, if you push your limits you will hardly recognise yourself from the weakness you felt on day one. Your legs and body will also grow and become stronger, more stable and better looking, and you can transfer the strength and fitness on the bike to every other aspect of life. Ebikes- I'll save it until I can't ride under my own power.

  26. An e-bike is a bicycle the same way an e-cig is a cigarette. Interpret that as you will.

  27. Some things to consider with a motorized mountain bike:
    1. You won't be allowed on most mtn bike trails
    2. You will be supporting an industry that advocates to open trails to motorized recreation.
    3. You will be disliked on the trail.
    4. Your bike will cost more, be heavier and require more maintenance, new batteries, and only certain shops will have parts or even know hot to work on it.
    5. You will be empowering anti-mtn bike advocates to succeed in removing all mtn biking from trails.

    Overall you will be funding of a movement to either allow motorized vehicles on our trails or ban mtn bikes.

  28. Speeding is also illegal but most of us do it
    If you like it ride it my friend

  29. If you're old or have physical issues, you cannot beat an e-bike

  30. I sold my car because now i can commute the 15miles to work in a normal way, sometimes i beat the cars stuck in traffic

  31. Let me start by saying for reason that will soon be obvious, (age being on of them) I don't do Mountain Trails. I missed that boat, but more power to the guys and gals that do….In 2004 I was diagnosed with adult asthma, in 2005 I had a Cervical Fusion, in 2013 I was rediagnosed with COPD, in 2015 they rebuild by left Achilles Tendon with a FHL Tendon Transfer, and in 2016 I had Rotator Cuff tear repair surgery. Last year I was diagnosed with emphysema. And in a week or 2 a determination will be made if I'll need to undergo a right upper lung lobe wedge resection or complete removal. None of these afflictions or injuries are bike related ( had more to do with a misspent youth). Since getting back into biking in 2003 at the age of 53, with all this 'afflictions' I have still averaged over 5,000 miles a year in the saddle for the last 14 years and the past three years I've add the 335 mile length of the C&O/ GAP Spring, Summer and Fall ride for a total of 9 end too end trips Once this latest medical issue is resolved it will be back up on my Cannondale to finish out this season. I may only get 2 GAP/ C&O rides in this year and might have trouble hitting my 5,000 mile mark, but we'll see. My reason for sharing this, I tend to think I've earned my biking 'bones'. And next year at age 69 if I decide to switch to an e-bike on occision does anyone think I care about there opinion of that decision? I'll wave and smile as we pass on any trail I decide to ride!…..Happy trails!

  32. I see hundreds of ebikers come through my shop and down our neighborhood trail. NOT ONE TIME has a person come in pushing their bike because it ran out of power. Literally it has never happened. Our trail here is over 200 miles long. Some of my rentals are getting 80 miles out of a charge and the motor cuts off at 20mph. A lot of the people commenting are just regurgitating the old wives tales that haunted first generation ebikes. They are not keeping up with current technology.

  33. If and when my body strongly suggests that a battery should help me pedal, I will do it too. I have nothing, nothing at all against ebikes. At the moment they provide useful opportunities to help me with incidental high intensity training. Electric motors have high torque so accelerating quickly and hauling up hills is something they do easily. I often see ebikes passing bikes for that reason. I pass the ebike passing the bike because it gives me a challenge. Again, do I have any criticism for ebikes? No. This is being misunderstood. Nobody posting here is criticising ebikes. They're simply asking why do I need one. That's all. Where is the sentitivity coming from, ebikers? The question is simply why does a healthy person who owns a bike need to buy an ebike? I'm trying to understand but I'm not understanding. Melbourne is one of the most cycling friendly cities on the planet. The opportunity to cycle for fitness, pleasure and transport is almost unparalleled. Just explain to me why I should rob myself of physical work, fitness and skill that result from normal cycling. Then explain why I should spend double what the equivalent bike will cost me and then I will consider purchasing an ebike. A healthy person has nothing to gain from an ebike apart from avoiding work if that's what they actually want. It's not what I want. I want the work. That's all I'm reading here. No one is misunderstanding. No one is stuck in the past. No one is desrespecting ebikes or (great) modern battery technology. They want to ride under their own power. Bikes have always been one of the best machines ever invented. A modern bike is an incredibly easy and fun thing to ride. Thanks Philip, good luck with things and happy trails to you.

  34. Transportation not exercise or cardio.

  35. Good point. That makes sense to me

  36. Here in San Francisco, some commuters use the pedals for everything but the ferocious hills of the city. Then they hit the on switch. A few use high end Mtn Ebikes for their commute and rides in the city. I think the new slogan is: Just ride (and pedal as much of the time as you can)!

  37. It's exactly the same. The motors don't do anything. In fact it makes the bike heavier.

  38. You are going to LOVE E-biking. Way more fun going up and down is just as good. Don't worry about others trying to discourage you. Everybody has an opinion. YOU BE YOU. Out on the trails most people aren't even going to notice your pedal assist. And if some soy boy or kale male starts whinning about you pasing them, Too bad for them! I tested many 2018 Ebikes at at Bootleg Canyon/ Interbike . Believe it or not the Haro plus size bike stood out in-front of all the similarly priced units. If you ride in rocky terrain, you can't beat the plus size tires. You can also tune the controller to your personal power curve. Generally speaking, you will pay more for mid-drive units and it's worth it. Hub driven bikes have a pretty huge rearwards weight bias that it undesirable in mountain biking. Also avoid anything with a rack mounted battery. Look for drive units from Bocsh/Shimano and Yamaha. Hub drives can be tough when it comes to changing a rear flat. I would also recommend full suspension if you are riding in rough conditions. `https://www.harobikes.com/mtb/bikes/io-electric/shift-plus-io-5-2018

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