Another good reason to have a TnT over the Grom

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Another good reason to have a TnT over the Grom, just look at the difference in size n strength, having the single top tube on the grom is one of the reasons they fold like paper with a low speed crash and get wrote off so easily, plus the TnT can take a bigger engine and more power, it is a no brainer!


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  1. And by the way I love the grom it's class only bought TNT because it was cheaper by far but love it, quality oils and lubes regular service and check over weekly seems fine and yes I also own a 19 yeast old Ducati 996 so dodgy electrics and rust prevention comes as standard

  2. As for mechanics not touching a Chinese bike that's ridiculous, my mechanic has worked on all bikes for the last 20+ years all makes and models just knowing a little trick here and there can make the difference.

  3. Just buy one you'll love it & if anything major does go wrong you've got 2 years warranty so it's a no brainer really Dont forget white's the fastest

  4. It's a great deal, that's what drawn me too it over the Grom, I just wish it had been out a little longer to see how it copes long term. I did fall in love with it when I sat on it though, it's a lovely bike 🙂

  5. But you get a lot of bike for 2k & i love mine 2

  6. It's a lot of money so yes you must be confident and happy with the purchase. I think the tnt is a good decision I love mine

  7. Cheers guys, I've never bought a bike from new before so I'm just worrying a little too much I think lol 🙂

  8. Seen a few on the msx pages, its only the odd problem but gets bigged up and made into a bigger one but in the grand scheme of things ya get a warranty so dont worry.

  9. The problem with a forum or fb page is out of 200 users there may be 3 or 4 issues. The issues seem a big issue but reality 98% of owners have had no issue. Same with all bikes and cars too.

  10. Things being cracked and the lady who had problems with her ignition and a few other things, so soon too :/ It just worries me. Not sure whether to save more and go for the Grom next Spring and get a discount on the 2017 model or get the TNT now

  11. Ones that can be solved easily in most cases.

  12. But don't forget there are 300 people in this group and just a small handful of issues…

  13. That's two things I've read on here this week about faults/defects people are having with the TNT :/ it's putting me off buying one :/

  14. Got a gn 250 to go in if i can find time to do it..its very similar mountings ..

  15. A friend had a Honda fireblade 2010 model, ridden daily and serviced often and properly. At 30k miles the engine let go. So don't just think because it's Honda it'll last. In fact his experience has put me off them massively.

  16. Yeah the frames on the Grom are super fragile, from experience any knocks to the front and the frame bends inwards plus they're prone to rust spots…. However, the engines are bulletproof (people forget they're Hondas, they'll run into high miles if taken care of) and the aftermarket is huge…. Shame there's no larger cc horizontal engine unless you extensively mod the original, but reliability falls out the window after that… Though I am waiting for someone to drop a 250 lump in one of the TNTs

  17. I want to squeeze all the juice of this 125cc engine If it happens to break, I will try to fit anything bellow 250cc.

  18. Probably be putting 250 in mine over the winter, will transform this bike 🙂

  19. Nobody has done it yet Davros but CarlHowarth and EddyTeasdale are fitting 250 motors at some point, gn250 suzuki and a cbr250 motor, i have seen 450 quad engines, 250 cbr and even a ducati panigale motor fitted in a grom albeit with heavy modification but the tnt has a strong frame with an upright motor already so someone skilled should have a much easier job to stick a similar sized motor.

  20. Be great to know what it shares it's engine with. I can't believe that it was created for the tnt at such a low retail price

  21. What bigger engine could you slip into a tnt? I can't find any info

  22. Do they sell KTM 125 Duke in UK? I bet that´s the bike to buy for MSX money.. If I only had that budget But apart from the latest problems (mentioned before) the bike seems to be quite solid. I ride it hardcore only and the problems doesn´t seem to come from there. Will see what the dealer has to say, I´m booked for tomorrow (and I think they have a month to resolve)..

  23. The best would be: TNT frame and suspension with the MSX engine and brakes 🙂 I have ridden a MSX for a few months and the bought the TNT, they are very different bikes, despite the similarities. Price per value anything cant beat the TNT.

  24. Iv not had an issue in 800miles and I'm riding it hard. It's getting faster for sure. I am not mechanical pro but I'm average with a wench, I have been checking bolts and heavily maintaining it best of my ability. Iv had Chinese bike before (sym wolf sb125n) and the tnt is superior quality to that but it's not Honda, it's not Honda prices either otherwise I wouldn't have one.

  25. Interesting… my mechanic won't touch Chinese bikes as he says they are terrible. He tells a story about the Sinnis and how he tried to set TDC and the crank marks weren't even in line! 're the possibility of heads cracking etc, I was wondering whether I should 're torque the bolts as it wouldn't surprise me at all if nothing is torqued at the factory. A sure way to warp or crack a head is to overtighten a bolt. I think these bikes are very good value but they need a bit more diy/tlc to keep them running right. I don't think they are for people who are not savvy or mechanically minded but that's my opinion.

  26. LOOOOOOOOOOL

  27. Abílio Fernando Sequeira

  28. I think 1300 quid would buy a nice 250 honda engine to go in, problem solved.

  29. End of the day you knew before ya bought them they are chinese and the price reflects that, the money you save over a grom can easily rectify the majority of the problems with the tnt and leave money left to stick a bigger motor should you want to.

  30. Am not hating on the Grom lads, going by my experience, i had the 1st one in the northeast, i ran the uk msx page, i still run one of the local msx pages, i personally got tyga to import all the parts and done quite a bit for groms in general so dont take it to heart i know my stuff about them.

  31. I am glad I am not the only one thinking that Tolga Saramali

  32. I'm not going to lie I had the TNT and sold it within 2 months it's a great bike for what u get for ur money but compared to my Grom the quality is just not there for me.

  33. Ive heard the tnt suffers poor build quality . Rust and bad electrics ?

  34. Suspension aren't shitty on the grom… I think this is more some hype thing to think so, the grom was design to be a versatile city bike… no a track racer. So suspension are soft… but they do the job, not the best suspension for sure but at least you got an engin which can never blow up… an Nissin brake with disk that look solid, a seat hard as hell which will not turn apart in a few years. It is built to last…. but like I said I am maybe I am wrong…. don't want to argue also, but for me you can't compare Honda to Benelli. Second hand te grom is here less than 2000€ with few km. I just think you always get what you pay for…. a better looking schock or front fork even larger… doesn't mean it's better…

  35. Never had a problem regarding reliability on either grom its still a nice bike, i only got rid as my backs fecked and after all the new seats and suspension it still crippled me, the tnt is far more comfy and handles way better.

  36. Tnt heavier

  37. I was so close to buying a Grom & so glad i waited for the TNT launch & tbh i would still buy the TNT even if the Grom was the same price cos it's just a better looking bike + 5 speed box & more extra stuff stock over the Grom

  38. Had nigh on 5k total into my grom i have owned 2, cost a bit to buy better tyres, uprated shock and seat and fork oil change just to get it how it should have been out the shop door.

  39. Could say look at the shitty tyres and suspension on the grom, there are pro's n cons with both but i can live with the tnt cons as its saved me 1300 quid over the grom.

  40. 1000km with it and cylinder has cracked on mine! Still waiting for it to be fixed for three week now "parts have been ordered" . +- 20000km on the grom an nothing…. I love to TNT but it quality wise you can't compare with the grom…. first it's too new on the market, maybe I am wrong and had no luck, second I can't believe that a new Chinese factory could built better quality as Honda even built in Thailand, the quality standard are very different. Don't want to argue here, but when it looks good it doesn't always mean it's good…. for me the TNT is globally under the grom quality wise, used material are cheaper etc…. just look the damn air filter!…. and that's an essential part on one engine…

  41. One day, a grom park beside me. I comparing the absorber, I was shock… again I realize paying expensive does not mean you get quality. +1 to TNT

  42. That's a big difference. I bet z125 is like the grom too.

  43. And by the way I love the grom it's class only bought TNT because it was cheaper by far but love it, quality oils and lubes regular service and check over weekly seems fine and yes I also own a 19 yeast old Ducati 996 so dodgy electrics and rust prevention comes as standard

  44. As for mechanics not touching a Chinese bike that's ridiculous, my mechanic has worked on all bikes for the last 20+ years all makes and models just knowing a little trick here and there can make the difference.

  45. Just buy one you'll love it & if anything major does go wrong you've got 2 years warranty so it's a no brainer really Dont forget white's the fastest

  46. It's a great deal, that's what drawn me too it over the Grom, I just wish it had been out a little longer to see how it copes long term. I did fall in love with it when I sat on it though, it's a lovely bike 🙂

  47. But you get a lot of bike for 2k & i love mine 2

  48. It's a lot of money so yes you must be confident and happy with the purchase. I think the tnt is a good decision I love mine

  49. Cheers guys, I've never bought a bike from new before so I'm just worrying a little too much I think lol 🙂

  50. Seen a few on the msx pages, its only the odd problem but gets bigged up and made into a bigger one but in the grand scheme of things ya get a warranty so dont worry.

  51. The problem with a forum or fb page is out of 200 users there may be 3 or 4 issues. The issues seem a big issue but reality 98% of owners have had no issue. Same with all bikes and cars too.

  52. Things being cracked and the lady who had problems with her ignition and a few other things, so soon too :/ It just worries me. Not sure whether to save more and go for the Grom next Spring and get a discount on the 2017 model or get the TNT now

  53. Ones that can be solved easily in most cases.

  54. But don't forget there are 300 people in this group and just a small handful of issues…

  55. That's two things I've read on here this week about faults/defects people are having with the TNT :/ it's putting me off buying one :/

  56. Got a gn 250 to go in if i can find time to do it..its very similar mountings ..

  57. A friend had a Honda fireblade 2010 model, ridden daily and serviced often and properly. At 30k miles the engine let go. So don't just think because it's Honda it'll last. In fact his experience has put me off them massively.

  58. Yeah the frames on the Grom are super fragile, from experience any knocks to the front and the frame bends inwards plus they're prone to rust spots…. However, the engines are bulletproof (people forget they're Hondas, they'll run into high miles if taken care of) and the aftermarket is huge…. Shame there's no larger cc horizontal engine unless you extensively mod the original, but reliability falls out the window after that… Though I am waiting for someone to drop a 250 lump in one of the TNTs

  59. I want to squeeze all the juice of this 125cc engine If it happens to break, I will try to fit anything bellow 250cc.

  60. Probably be putting 250 in mine over the winter, will transform this bike 🙂

  61. Nobody has done it yet Davros but CarlHowarth and EddyTeasdale are fitting 250 motors at some point, gn250 suzuki and a cbr250 motor, i have seen 450 quad engines, 250 cbr and even a ducati panigale motor fitted in a grom albeit with heavy modification but the tnt has a strong frame with an upright motor already so someone skilled should have a much easier job to stick a similar sized motor.

  62. Be great to know what it shares it's engine with. I can't believe that it was created for the tnt at such a low retail price

  63. What bigger engine could you slip into a tnt? I can't find any info

  64. Do they sell KTM 125 Duke in UK? I bet that´s the bike to buy for MSX money.. If I only had that budget But apart from the latest problems (mentioned before) the bike seems to be quite solid. I ride it hardcore only and the problems doesn´t seem to come from there. Will see what the dealer has to say, I´m booked for tomorrow (and I think they have a month to resolve)..

  65. The best would be: TNT frame and suspension with the MSX engine and brakes 🙂 I have ridden a MSX for a few months and the bought the TNT, they are very different bikes, despite the similarities. Price per value anything cant beat the TNT.

  66. Iv not had an issue in 800miles and I'm riding it hard. It's getting faster for sure. I am not mechanical pro but I'm average with a wench, I have been checking bolts and heavily maintaining it best of my ability. Iv had Chinese bike before (sym wolf sb125n) and the tnt is superior quality to that but it's not Honda, it's not Honda prices either otherwise I wouldn't have one.

  67. Interesting… my mechanic won't touch Chinese bikes as he says they are terrible. He tells a story about the Sinnis and how he tried to set TDC and the crank marks weren't even in line! 're the possibility of heads cracking etc, I was wondering whether I should 're torque the bolts as it wouldn't surprise me at all if nothing is torqued at the factory. A sure way to warp or crack a head is to overtighten a bolt. I think these bikes are very good value but they need a bit more diy/tlc to keep them running right. I don't think they are for people who are not savvy or mechanically minded but that's my opinion.

  68. LOOOOOOOOOOL

  69. Abílio Fernando Sequeira

  70. I think 1300 quid would buy a nice 250 honda engine to go in, problem solved.

  71. End of the day you knew before ya bought them they are chinese and the price reflects that, the money you save over a grom can easily rectify the majority of the problems with the tnt and leave money left to stick a bigger motor should you want to.

  72. Am not hating on the Grom lads, going by my experience, i had the 1st one in the northeast, i ran the uk msx page, i still run one of the local msx pages, i personally got tyga to import all the parts and done quite a bit for groms in general so dont take it to heart i know my stuff about them.

  73. I am glad I am not the only one thinking that Tolga Saramali

  74. I'm not going to lie I had the TNT and sold it within 2 months it's a great bike for what u get for ur money but compared to my Grom the quality is just not there for me.

  75. Ive heard the tnt suffers poor build quality . Rust and bad electrics ?

  76. Suspension aren't shitty on the grom… I think this is more some hype thing to think so, the grom was design to be a versatile city bike… no a track racer. So suspension are soft… but they do the job, not the best suspension for sure but at least you got an engin which can never blow up… an Nissin brake with disk that look solid, a seat hard as hell which will not turn apart in a few years. It is built to last…. but like I said I am maybe I am wrong…. don't want to argue also, but for me you can't compare Honda to Benelli. Second hand te grom is here less than 2000€ with few km. I just think you always get what you pay for…. a better looking schock or front fork even larger… doesn't mean it's better…

  77. Never had a problem regarding reliability on either grom its still a nice bike, i only got rid as my backs fecked and after all the new seats and suspension it still crippled me, the tnt is far more comfy and handles way better.

  78. Tnt heavier

  79. I was so close to buying a Grom & so glad i waited for the TNT launch & tbh i would still buy the TNT even if the Grom was the same price cos it's just a better looking bike + 5 speed box & more extra stuff stock over the Grom

  80. Had nigh on 5k total into my grom i have owned 2, cost a bit to buy better tyres, uprated shock and seat and fork oil change just to get it how it should have been out the shop door.

  81. Could say look at the shitty tyres and suspension on the grom, there are pro's n cons with both but i can live with the tnt cons as its saved me 1300 quid over the grom.

  82. 1000km with it and cylinder has cracked on mine! Still waiting for it to be fixed for three week now "parts have been ordered" . +- 20000km on the grom an nothing…. I love to TNT but it quality wise you can't compare with the grom…. first it's too new on the market, maybe I am wrong and had no luck, second I can't believe that a new Chinese factory could built better quality as Honda even built in Thailand, the quality standard are very different. Don't want to argue here, but when it looks good it doesn't always mean it's good…. for me the TNT is globally under the grom quality wise, used material are cheaper etc…. just look the damn air filter!…. and that's an essential part on one engine…

  83. One day, a grom park beside me. I comparing the absorber, I was shock… again I realize paying expensive does not mean you get quality. +1 to TNT

  84. That's a big difference. I bet z125 is like the grom too.

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